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Old K D
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 Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Hang in there Zack. Stick to your guns! |
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big col
Joined: 27 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Totally agree with you Zach, ban the smelly things then we can do some real racing without having to suffer their disgusting pollution  |
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K1-Dan
Joined: 01 Feb 2007
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Location: Caerphilly - South Wales
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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There have been MSA regional consultations for ever and ever (or so the MSA would have you believe) and nothing ever came of them.
Ultimately it is Motorsport and it is going to be expensive, especially in a recession. The thing is everyone from top to the bottom wants more. More speed, more money, more clout, more recognition etc. Whilst at the same time they want less spending, less taxes, less fees, less people getting in the way telling them how/what to do!
And the two just aren't compatible. You hear the councils cutting back on jobs and services but the tax is staying the same or getting higher. So where is my money, you hear me ask? It's going to pay for the extra workers hired to cover the postal workers, airline staff etc. striking and the aftermath of the disruption etc.
At the same time everyone wants pay rises, bonuses, minimum wage increases without the cost of living going up at the same rate.
Now can you see why the costs of racing is going up? The cost of everything is going up! On top of that Britain isn't a manufacturer country any more, we're buying it almost all in. And the rest of the world knows it, so they are going to charge us accordingly knowing there is no internal competition!
I'm not sure where I'm going with this but I wrote at it for 5 minutes so I'll post it anyway! OKD, see what you started with your Rover Metro? I had a similar story revolving around the Mini, I had 3 of them and all went to the same Valhalla, but arrived there slightly miss-shapen due to their owner's....
Now I'm off looking for a Meerkat, sorry I meant cheap home insurance. Something else that's gone out the window in this country, the value of retained custom! These days it pays better to change every year as you get penalised with extra costs for being loyal!
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djbri
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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Location: Hereford
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| I just want to choose the right kart, engine , etc for a lad who weighs less than 7stone for the right budget for next year!!!! |
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Old K D
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Believe it or not everyone wants similar things. Mostly a quiet life and to be allowed to get on with it.
Unfortunatly everyone also has an opinion.
Henry Ford probably had the right idea with his Model T. 'You can have any colour you like as long as it is Black.'
Throwing a spanner in the works, we need to check out Tiffs' new Storm. Did well at the last meeting. Seems to be an economy kart.
No idea if it is suitable for Juniors or anything about what engines it could take. Perhaps someone could advise. |
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djbri
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| I have been told, and i have seen it in karting mag. that price seems very good for that chassis!!, but of course your right Ken, is it any good for a light weight??????? |
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Old K D
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:38 am Post subject: |
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djbri, To avoid any confusion Old KD is Old Karting Dad. Which I am no longer. My 'young lad' has moved to a 'higher' undertaking.
It occured to me, too late, that I could be mistaken for Old Ken Denscombe. Old Ken has forgotten more about karts than I will ever know.
So as far as I have read, the debate on the UK Karting website Notice Board, the Storm is an Intrepid chasssis with all the 'fancy' bits taken off.
I suppose the proof will be in the use over time.
We might even get back into the old arguement of 'choice'. MS v 7kart, Zip v Project 1 etc etc.
In the end it is what you feel comfitable with.
A question for the old timers. Was there a Storm kart produced by Stratos before they became 7Kart? |
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big col
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I think Stratos produced a chassis which they called the Storm, that is before they became 7Kart and produced the "Chariot of the Gods"!!!! |
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Tony G
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| 7Kart and produced the "Chariot of the Gods"!!!! |
Didnt realise 7 kart made chassis for 2/ |
K1-Dan
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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Smelly or not, which are the biggest grids around 2T or 4T?
Which grids are growing and which are shrinking at Llandow?
Now widen the search and look at the surrounding clubs as well. The reality is that if you want to race anywhere other than a select number of clubs, you'll have to chose one of the 2T classes.
I'm not sure Llandow is doing itself any favours doggedly hanging on to (locally) redundant classes. I'm not advocating any of the 2T, or indeed 4T for that matter, if you read above you'll find all I did was advice against propping one against the other.
The reality is that fewer grids give better racing through bigger grids and more laps and that is a fact! I'm afraid in these economic times "choice" is a bad thing. The Club should lead with strong decisions and encourage people down fewer rather than more avenues!
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Isaac_price6
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| K1-Dan wrote: | Isaac...
"I think that if a few cadets get into 4 stroke we would have 5 or 6 from this club alone, which should mean some good racing."
The same applies in reverse as well!!!
And I will have to go defensive I'm afraid! Just because your brain has been poisoned with a bias for 4 Stroke engines (possibly motivated by the ownership of the 4stroked beast underneath you) that wouldn't necessarily mean that us 2T drivers are likely to die faster than our 4T brethren!
Watch that you're not talking someone else's grid down whilst trying to boost yours in the process!
The Club are doing all their level best to encourage people to come and race, I'm not sure taking sides helps anyone's case really!
Think of what you type before you do it, that's MY job! lol
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Well...I dont know about Andrew, but I'm fairly sure Liam and Zach(considering he made this thread) isnt leaving next season. I HEARD that some 2 strokes were leaving. So I commented. Didn't mean to cause offense. My comment was meant to be that there should be 3/4(depending on whether I get back in time) people racing 4 stroke at Llandow next season + the cadets that may/may not move up. I didn't mean to disrespect the 2 strokes in any way, and around the rest of the UK 2 strokes are the more popular. My advice was supposed to be "If you're not in the know about where people are going next season but want to go to a junior category at Llandow, try 4 stroke." rather than "There won't be a grid of 2 strokes, so you have to chose 4 stroke or Junior Max and 4 stroke is a lot cheaper." I can't remember whether the comment was in reaction to or against a future statement that the 2 strokes would be better because they have bigger grids around the rest of the UK, but infact they don't at Llandow. They're about the same, and currently they race each other on the track.
Sorry again if I disrespected TKM 2 stroke. I don't want either category to die, they're both alright karts.
In other news the TKM Festival is on TV on Thursday on Sky 3 for anyone who wants to see some of the action at 1 of the best TKM events of the year  (ignore TKM 4 Stroke last race, it doesnt matter  ) |
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